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CourseDirector at 17:51, 26 August 2020

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	==Hit Points==		==Hit Points==
	~~The idea here is to draw~~ a ~~line between "being hit" and actual injury. Consider you're in~~ a fight; if you get punched in the stomach, you'll be hurt, but if you've had a few minutes to catch your breath, it's like it never happened. Whereas if you get stabbed in the stomach, that's a very serious thing.		All characters have a Toughness rating a Constitution rating.

	~~So characters have two pools~~ of ~~hit-points: "Constitution"(hit points) and "~~Toughness~~". Toughness is the "punch to the gut" type. It recovers faster~~ and ~~regenerates automatically;~~ most ~~attacks deal~~ damage to, and things like armor and whatnot help mitigate that. "Constitution" implies actual injury was received. This can only be recovered either through medicine(sutcher kits, bandages) or with the use of magic. There will also be an "injured" condition which causes both to tick down during strenuous fighting until removed.		*Toughness acts as a buffer against actual injury; your pool of Toughness Points regenerates quickly and absorbs most types of damage assuming you are properly protected against them.

	~~Let's further add~~ a "~~Fatigue~~" ~~function~~. ~~This~~ is ~~really more of~~ a ~~measure of~~ how ~~much effort~~ your character ~~is exerting at any given time(E~~.G. ~~climbing up stairs requires more effort than walking on level ground). When your character is at full health and uninjured,~~ fatigue ~~is basically meaningless~~. ~~However if you're~~ under ~~the effects~~ of ~~an injury~~, ~~this determines when you take additional~~ damage. ~~Further~~, ~~some abilities/combo effects~~ will ~~automatically leave you "fatigued" and require some time~~ to ~~recover~~.		*Constitution is your actual physical health. Having had damage to your Constitution means you have a physical injury. Unless magic is at play, Con does not regenerate automatically and must be "healed" using medicine(sutcher kits, bandages, etc) or magic(potions, spells, items, etc). It will be possible to find and equip items that automatically regenerate Constitution.


			There is also a third function called Fatigue, which determines how quickly your Toughness regenerates. Under normal situations, the character will never become Fatigued; basic actions do not bring the fatigue bar down. Damage, however, does. Also some special abilities will eat into the fatigue bar.

			===Damage Types===
			As covered under hit points, there are a few different types of hit points, and different damage types affect them. Your basic damage types are:

			*Bludgeoning
			*Slashing
			*Piercing
			*Magic

			Unless a target is armored, slashing and piercing damage hit points directly. Bludgeoning damages toughness first but deals more damage once it has been removed. Magic has a target and will deal according to the spell or effect.

	==Combat==		==Combat==
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	Personally, I like the notion of dividing mobs into three categories: Captains, Lieutenants, and trash. Trash mobs are always vulnerable to effect-kills, lieutenants call for some kind of check, and captains are immune.		Personally, I like the notion of dividing mobs into three categories: Captains, Lieutenants, and trash. Trash mobs are always vulnerable to effect-kills, lieutenants call for some kind of check, and captains are immune.

	~~===Damage Types===~~
	~~As covered under hit points, there are a few different types of hit points, and different damage types affect them. Your basic damage types are:~~

	*Bludgeoning
	*Slashing
	*Piercing
	*Magic

	Unless a target is armored, slashing and piercing damage hit points directly. Bludgeoning damages toughness first but deals more damage once it has been removed. Magic has a target and will deal according to the spell or effect.

	====Armor====		====Armor====

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 ==Combat==
-Combat should be real-time but relatively slow. It should not require cutting-edge reflexes to play this game. I personally dislike any sort of parry/active blocking system and prefer a good old fashioned "aim at monster, hit attack button". That said, some kind of grapple/boss climbing feature should be at least attempted.
+Where possible, attempts should be made to keep interacting with the game simple enough that people can play with a console controller if they want. We are not designing around that demographic, but we don't want it to be impossible for them. This, I believe, will also ease the transition to virtual reality.
 A good old-fashioned FPS-style interface with hotbars. It's not in vogue but who cares? It's solid and simple. Hot keys are tied to special abilities, special attacks, etc. Keep the basic tab to target, left-mouse click to basic-attack. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this tried and true system.
-Under the hood, we need some kind of to-hit and damage calculations, but will come to that later.
+===To-Hit and Damage Calculations===
-===Combo Attacks===
+On a critical hit, the sword deals an ''additional'' 50 points of slashing damage.
 ====Effect Kills====
 In normal combat, an enemy dies when it's hit points reach zero. An "effect kill" is the exception. A mob could be at full HP and still succumb to immediate death from this. It could be an injury that becomes fatal(see Injuries bellow) or the coupe-de-gras of a combo. Spells can also have kill-effects.
-The idea is to keep the game moving. When it comes to clearing "trash", players should not have to spend a ton of time beating things down. Game difficulty should never be decided by "the number of hit points" a mob has.
+The idea is to keep the game moving. When it comes to clearing "trash", players should not have to spend a ton of time beating things down. Game difficulty should never be decided by "the number of hit points" a trash mob has.
 There needs to be some system to determine whether or not the kill is successful. This could be as simple as a ranking system(EG enemies in group "A" are vulnerable, those in group "B" are not) or we could make some kind of variable.

CourseDirector at 17:34, 11 January 2020

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	The primary goal of the combat system is to scale without having to go by numbers. Idealy the system should be such that older content never becomes completely trivial, and that end-game content at release is still challenging several expansions down the road. We don't want to follow the old "add levels to make the game harder" ploy.

	Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements. Over all, we want the encounters to be fairly fast-paced. A well-built character should not need to spend several minutes beating down a trash mob in order to advance. This is where the use of combo and effect-kills comes in; stronger enemies(bosses) will be immune to these, but weaker mobs should be relatively easy to deal with.		Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements. Over all, we want the encounters to be fairly fast-paced. A well-built character should not need to spend several minutes beating down a trash mob in order to advance. This is where the use of combo and effect-kills comes in; stronger enemies(bosses) will be immune to these, but weaker mobs should be relatively easy to deal with.

CourseDirector at 17:33, 11 January 2020

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			The primary goal of the combat system is to scale without having to go by numbers. Idealy the system should be such that older content never becomes completely trivial, and that end-game content at release is still challenging several expansions down the road. We don't want to follow the old "add levels to make the game harder" ploy.

	Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements. Over all, we want the encounters to be fairly fast-paced. A well-built character should not need to spend several minutes beating down a trash mob in order to advance. This is where the use of combo and effect-kills comes in; stronger enemies(bosses) will be immune to these, but weaker mobs should be relatively easy to deal with.		Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements. Over all, we want the encounters to be fairly fast-paced. A well-built character should not need to spend several minutes beating down a trash mob in order to advance. This is where the use of combo and effect-kills comes in; stronger enemies(bosses) will be immune to these, but weaker mobs should be relatively easy to deal with.

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-Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements.
+Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements. Over all, we want the encounters to be fairly fast-paced. A well-built character should not need to spend several minutes beating down a trash mob in order to advance. This is where the use of combo and effect-kills comes in; stronger enemies(bosses) will be immune to these, but weaker mobs should be relatively easy to deal with.
 ==Hit Points==
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 Under the hood, we need some kind of to-hit and damage calculations, but will come to that later.
 ===Damage Types===

CourseDirector at 02:11, 21 December 2019

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	~~The Combat System in Flight is beautifully complex~~.		Not an "Action RPG" per-say, but the game will have action elements.

	==~~Basic Combat~~==		==Hit Points==
	~~Players strike~~ a ~~mob triggering an attack roll based on~~ "~~There is no Twelve~~" ~~from YoF~~. ~~Mobs then have~~ a ~~defense roll to counter it. Each attack removes one defense dice from~~ the ~~pool. Once~~ a ~~monster has no defense left~~, ~~the players can start inflicting damage levels on~~ it. ~~Enough damage~~ in a ~~particular pool kills it~~.		The idea here is to draw a line between "being hit" and actual injury. Consider you're in a fight; if you get punched in the stomach, you'll be hurt, but if you've had a few minutes to catch your breath, it's like it never happened. Whereas if you get stabbed in the stomach, that's a very serious thing.

	~~Players also~~ have ~~different attack~~-~~types they can use situation-ally~~. ~~Some are geared towards lowering a targets defense, others designed~~ to ~~his specific crits~~. ~~In general characters will never need o~~ deal ~~with more than 3-4 enemies at a time~~, and only at the ~~higher levels~~. ~~CC effects~~ also ~~remove defense points~~.		So characters have two pools of hit-points: "Constitution"(hit points) and "Toughness". Toughness is the "punch to the gut" type. It recovers faster and regenerates automatically; most attacks deal damage to, and things like armor and whatnot help mitigate that. "Constitution" implies actual injury was received. This can only be recovered either through medicine(sutcher kits, bandages) or with the use of magic. There will also be an "injured" condition which causes both to tick down during strenuous fighting until removed.

	~~===Crowd Control===~~		Let's further add a "Fatigue" function. This is really more of a measure of how much effort your character is exerting at any given time(E.G. climbing up stairs requires more effort than walking on level ground). When your character is at full health and uninjured, fatigue is basically meaningless. However if you're under the effects of an injury, this determines when you take additional damage. Further, some abilities/combo effects will automatically leave you "fatigued" and require some time to recover.
	When ~~dealing with multiple enemies~~, ~~players will need to use various crowd control~~ effects ~~to survive~~. ~~Knockdown~~, ~~daze, knock-backs, etc. These~~ will ~~be granted through perks~~.

	==~~=Magic=~~==		==Combat==
	~~Magical attacks will~~ be ~~treated the same as weapon attacks~~, ~~for all intents and purposes~~. ~~There will~~ be ~~a number of sub-types in magic for which enemies can have resistance, but all Damage Levels will go in to the Magic-type~~.		Combat should be real-time but relatively slow. It should not require cutting-edge reflexes to play this game. I personally dislike any sort of parry/active blocking system and prefer a good old fashioned "aim at monster, hit attack button". That said, some kind of grapple/boss climbing feature should be at least attempted.

	~~Characters will have a mana pool that slowly regenerates. Every spell cost mana but some also regenerate it. Spells have cool~~-~~downs~~. ~~Like weapon attacks, some spells are spcialized~~ in ~~reducing an enemy~~'s ~~defense value~~, ~~others are damage-dealers~~, ~~others are a combination~~. ~~Players can only slot a set number of spells but can slot~~ the ~~same spell multiple times~~ with ~~independent cool-downs~~.		A good old-fashioned FPS-style interface with hotbars. It's not in vogue but who cares? It's solid and simple. Hot keys are tied to special abilities, special attacks, etc. Keep the basic tab to target, left-mouse click to basic-attack. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this tried and true system.

	~~==Damage Types==~~		Under the hood, we need some kind of to-hit and damage calculations, but will come to that later.
	~~There are five types of damage in~~ the ~~game: Slashing, Blugeoning, Piercing, Magic~~, and ~~Generic. Each type has a different number of levels associated with it. Killing a monster requires removing all of the~~ damage ~~levels in any one specfic type~~.

	~~Monsters that~~ are ~~vulnerable to~~ a ~~particular type~~ of damage ~~will have fewer~~ damage ~~levels within that pool.~~		===Damage Types===
			As covered under hit points, there are a few different types of hit points, and different damage types affect them. Your basic damage types are:

	~~Removing damage levels also calls for a particular type of hit(of which there are currently 4). Certain very tough monsters may be impossible to kill by players at lower levels.~~		*Bludgeoning
			*Slashing
			*Piercing
			*Magic

	~~Crit Types are: none(0), half-crit(0.5), full-crit(1), and Over-Crit(1.5). A regular hit is any attack role that defeats~~ a ~~defense-role. A half-crit happens if the attack role~~ is ~~divisible by eight, a full crit must have at least 8 successes above the defense AND be divisible by 8~~, and ~~an over-crit is at least 16~~ points ~~over the defense roll.~~		Unless a target is armored, slashing and piercing damage hit points directly. Bludgeoning damages toughness first but deals more damage once it has been removed. Magic has a target and will deal according to the spell or effect.

	~~Sample Pool:~~
	*Slashing: 0, 0, 0, 0, .5
	*Bludgeoning~~: 1, 0, 0~~
	*Piercing: 0, 1.~~5, 0, 0,~~ .5
	*Magic
	*Untyped: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0

	~~To kill the monster in the above example with a sword~~, ~~a character would need~~ to ~~land 4 regular hits and one half-crit~~. ~~To kill it with a hammer~~, ~~they'd need one full-crit~~, ~~followed by two regular hits~~.		====Armor====
			Armor provides enormous bonuses to toughness, and makes it so that slashing and piercing damage has to go through toughness before impacting actual HP. However, not all classes can inherently wear armor. Mages, in particular, have to jump through quite a few "hoops" in order to become armored spellcasters.

	===~~Damage Level Trees~~===		===Injuries===
	~~The idea is that certain mobs(particularly tougher ones) could have branching~~ damage ~~trees. The idea~~ is ~~that by doing damage in~~ a ~~particular pool, you then make alternate pools smaller~~. ~~So for exmaple by inflicting 3 levels of piercing damage~~, ~~the slashing~~ damage ~~pool becomes much smaller and requires fewer crits~~.		Injuries are funny things. They don't always happen, but any time damage is dealt directly to the hit points, there's a chance of inflicting an injury. This is where Fatigue comes into play, as injured characters suffer more damage when they exceed a certain fatigue threshold.

	~~==Defense==~~		We will further divide the body into four areas that can be injured: head, torso, arms, and legs. An injury to the legs reduces movement speed, an injury to the arm reduces attack speed, and an injury to the head reduces both. Injury to the torso has the possibility of causing an instant fatality.
	~~Players have attack points~~, ~~monsters have defense points~~. ~~When a player attacks~~, the attack ~~removes a certain amount~~ of ~~defense points. A monster cannot be damaged until all his defense points are gone. Monsters also regenerate defense points. Players can also learn special attacks that help remove defense points~~.

	~~===Immunities and Damage Reduction===~~		Whenever an attack is landed, the game will determine which area it hits. Blunt injury to the head, piercing/slashing damage to the torso have the chance(which can be improved) to be instantly fatal(this goes for both mobs and players). Magic cannot inherently cause injury or death, but some spells will have that effect.
	~~Certain mobs may be entirely immune~~ to ~~a particular~~ damage ~~type. Others will~~ have ~~"damage reduction" abilities~~ which ~~heighten their crit-requirements if not bypassed~~. ~~Still others~~ have ~~"hit immunities"~~ that ~~must be bypassed just to attack them~~.

	~~Ideas for immunities~~: ~~Alignment~~, ~~metal~~, and ~~Magical types~~. The ~~simplest monsters have no immunity~~. ~~The immunities can require specific combinations(AG~~ a ~~metal~~ and ~~alignment-bypass) there will also be bypasses~~ that ~~get past everything~~, ~~but these would be very high~~-~~level~~.		==Defensive Types==
			You have three basic ways of defending yourself: armor/toughness, evasion/avoiding attacks, and simply not being a target at all. The third one is the hardest, as it doesn't help with AOE, but hey. Obviously, each [[AL Classes\|class]] has it's innate specialties. Warriors rely on armor, thieves rely on evasiveness, and mages cower in a corner and hope no one sees them. Each class further has an Expertise tree that helps it overcome it's deficiencies in that regard. So warriors can chose to sacrifice offense to gain better defense, and mages can learn defensive spells at the cost of damage-dealing abilities.

	==See Also==		==See Also==
	[[Category:Flight]]		[[Category:Flight]]

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	Players strike a mob triggering an attack roll based on "There is no Twelve" from YoF. Mobs then have a defense roll to counter it. Each attack removes one defense dice from the pool. Once a monster has no defense left, the players can start inflicting damage levels on it. Enough damage in a particular pool kills it.		Players strike a mob triggering an attack roll based on "There is no Twelve" from YoF. Mobs then have a defense roll to counter it. Each attack removes one defense dice from the pool. Once a monster has no defense left, the players can start inflicting damage levels on it. Enough damage in a particular pool kills it.

	Players also have different attack-types they can use situation-ally. Some are geared towards lowering a targets defense, others designed to his specific crits.		Players also have different attack-types they can use situation-ally. Some are geared towards lowering a targets defense, others designed to his specific crits. In general characters will never need o deal with more than 3-4 enemies at a time, and only at the higher levels. CC effects also remove defense points.

			===Crowd Control===
			When dealing with multiple enemies, players will need to use various crowd control effects to survive. Knockdown, daze, knock-backs, etc. These will be granted through perks.

	===Magic===		===Magic===

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	==Basic Combat==		==Basic Combat==
	Players strike a mob triggering an attack roll based on "There is no Twelve" from YoF. Mobs then have a defense roll to counter it. Each attack removes one defense dice from the pool. Once a monster has no defense left, the players can start inflicting damage levels on it. Enough damage in a particular pool kills it.		Players strike a mob triggering an attack roll based on "There is no Twelve" from YoF. Mobs then have a defense roll to counter it. Each attack removes one defense dice from the pool. Once a monster has no defense left, the players can start inflicting damage levels on it. Enough damage in a particular pool kills it.

			Players also have different attack-types they can use situation-ally. Some are geared towards lowering a targets defense, others designed to his specific crits.

	===Magic===		===Magic===

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Magic

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	===Magic===		===Magic===
	Magical attacks will be treated the same as weapon attacks, for all intents and purposes.		Magical attacks will be treated the same as weapon attacks, for all intents and purposes. There will be a number of sub-types in magic for which enemies can have resistance, but all Damage Levels will go in to the Magic-type.

			Characters will have a mana pool that slowly regenerates. Every spell cost mana but some also regenerate it. Spells have cool-downs. Like weapon attacks, some spells are spcialized in reducing an enemy's defense value, others are damage-dealers, others are a combination. Players can only slot a set number of spells but can slot the same spell multiple times with independent cool-downs.

	==Damage Types==		==Damage Types==

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	==Damage Types==		==Damage Types==
	There are ~~four~~ types of damage in the game: Slashing, Blugeoning, Piercing, and Generic. Each type has a different number of levels associated with it. Killing a monster requires removing all of the damage levels in any one specfic type.		There are five types of damage in the game: Slashing, Blugeoning, Piercing, Magic, and Generic. Each type has a different number of levels associated with it. Killing a monster requires removing all of the damage levels in any one specfic type.

	Monsters that are vulnerable to a particular type of damage will have fewer damage levels within that pool.		Monsters that are vulnerable to a particular type of damage will have fewer damage levels within that pool.